{"id":10177,"date":"2017-06-05T16:09:28","date_gmt":"2017-06-05T14:09:28","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/haberler.dk\/tr\/?p=10177"},"modified":"2021-10-03T06:33:17","modified_gmt":"2021-10-03T04:33:17","slug":"turkiye-ve-almanya-incirlik-sorununu-cozemedi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.nordicturk.com\/arsiv\/20122025\/turkiye-ve-almanya-incirlik-sorununu-cozemedi\/10177\/","title":{"rendered":"T\u00fcrkiye ve Almanya \u0130ncirlik sorununu \u00e7\u00f6zemedi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye heyet halinde gelen Almanya D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Sigmar Gabriel ile Mevl\u00fct \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu&#8217;nun g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesinden \u0130ncirlik&#8217;e ziyaret konusunda bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, Alman mevkida\u015f\u0131 Gabriel&#8217;le g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesinin ard\u0131ndan yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamada, 2 \u00fclkenin Avrupa i\u00e7in \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli iki ortak ve m\u00fcttefik oldu\u011funu vurgulad\u0131 ve &#8220;\u015eunu da kabul etmemiz laz\u0131m ki ikili ili\u015fkilerimizi hatta b\u00f6lgesel i\u015f birli\u011fimizi olumsuz etkileyen atmosfer \u015fu anda mevcut maalesef&#8221; diye konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n<p>Bakan \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, Alman milletvekillerinin \u0130ncirlik talebine ili\u015fkin herhangi bir isim listesi verilip verilmedi\u011finin sorulmas\u0131 \u00fczerine, herhangi bir liste verilmedi\u011fini s\u00f6yledi.<br \/>\n\u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, \u015fu anda \u0130ncirlik&#8217;i ziyaret i\u00e7in \u015fartlar\u0131n uygun olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, gelecek s\u00fcre\u00e7te \u015fartlar\u0131n normalle\u015fmesi halinde ortak baz\u0131 ad\u0131mlar\u0131n at\u0131labilece\u011fini kaydetti.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, Malta&#8217;da d\u00fczenlenen AB D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanlar\u0131 Gayriresmi Toplant\u0131s\u0131&#8217;ndan sonra yapt\u0131klar\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmede de ili\u015fkileri daha iyiye g\u00f6t\u00fcrmek i\u00e7in at\u0131lacak ad\u0131mlar\u0131 ele ald\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 belirterek &#8220;Almanya bize kar\u015f\u0131 olumlu bir ad\u0131m atarsa biz her zaman iki ad\u0131m atar\u0131z. Ama baz\u0131 mevcut durumlar\u0131 da g\u00f6z ard\u0131 edemeyiz.&#8221; ifadesini kulland\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Ba\u015f ba\u015fa ve heyetler aras\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerde, T\u00fcrkiye taraf\u0131ndan durumun nas\u0131l g\u00f6r\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc ve ya\u015fanan sorunlar\u0131n \u00f6zetlendi\u011fini s\u00f6yleyen \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, &#8220;Bunlardan bir tanesi, genel anlamda, Almanya&#8217;daki T\u00fcrkiye kar\u015f\u0131tl\u0131\u011f\u0131. Bu T\u00fcrkiye kar\u015f\u0131tl\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011fa, yabanc\u0131 d\u00fc\u015fmanl\u0131\u011f\u0131na da yol a\u00e7\u0131yor ve a\u015f\u0131r\u0131 partilere de hizmet ediyor. Nitekim son zamanlarda camilere ve orada ya\u015fayan vatanda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131za y\u00f6nelik sald\u0131r\u0131 say\u0131lar\u0131nda ciddi art\u0131\u015f var. Dostum Sigmar da bu art\u0131\u015f\u0131 kabul ediyor. Bu, esasen Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n da bir sorunu, genel anlamda Avrupa&#8217;n\u0131n da bir sorunu.&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki \u00fclke aras\u0131nda ikili ticaret, yat\u0131r\u0131mlar gibi pozitif g\u00fcndemlerin de oldu\u011funu belirten \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, mevkida\u015f\u0131yla yap\u0131lan g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmelerde negatif atmosferin da\u011f\u0131t\u0131lmas\u0131 i\u00e7in ilgili t\u00fcm konular\u0131 ele ald\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 vurgulad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><strong>&#8220;Die Welt muhabiri Deniz Y\u00fccel ile ilgili su\u00e7lama ter\u00f6rle ilgili&#8221;<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, bir soru \u00fczerine, T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de tutuklu bulunan Die Welt&#8217;in muhabiri Deniz Y\u00fccel ile ilgili su\u00e7lamalar\u0131n gazetecilikle de\u011fil ter\u00f6rle ilgili oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Nas\u0131l Almanya&#8217;da ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z yarg\u0131 varsa T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de de ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z yarg\u0131n\u0131n soru\u015fturma s\u00fcrd\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fc dile getiren \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, kendilerinin de D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 olarak ellerinden gelen deste\u011fi verdiklerini ifade etti.<\/p>\n<p>Son zamanlarda Avrupa&#8217;da gizli servislerin, T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de gazetecileri ajan olarak kullanmaya ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlatan \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, bu gazeteciler yakaland\u0131\u011f\u0131nda ise &#8220;Nas\u0131l tutuklars\u0131n\u0131z?\u201d dendi\u011fini belirtti. \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, Deniz Y\u00fccel konusunu de\u011ferlendirdiklerini, Alman D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131n\u0131n baz\u0131 talepleri oldu\u011funu, kendisinin de bu talepleri memnuniyetle muhataplar\u0131na iletece\u011fini kaydetti.<\/p>\n<p>Bakan \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fc PKK&#8217;n\u0131n Almanya&#8217;daki faaliyetleri konusunda T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin taleplerinin sorulmas\u0131 \u00fczerine, \u00f6rg\u00fct \u00fcyelerinin Almanya&#8217;daki T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015flar\u0131ndan zorla para toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve illegal faaliyetlerde bulundu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, &#8220;Ne kadar illegal su\u00e7 varsa hepsinin i\u00e7inde PKK var. Bunlara kar\u015f\u0131 tedbir al\u0131nmas\u0131 laz\u0131m. PKK bizim d\u00fc\u015fman\u0131m\u0131z, PKK hepimize tehdit. Yar\u0131n bak\u0131n Almanya bunlar\u0131 \u00f6nlemek i\u00e7in tedbirlere ba\u015flas\u0131n, Almanya&#8217;y\u0131 da kar\u0131\u015ft\u0131racaklar. Bunu temenni etmeyiz ama b\u00f6yle bir ter\u00f6r \u00f6rg\u00fct\u00fcd\u00fcr.&#8221; diye konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n<p>Almanya&#8217;da PKK mensuplar\u0131na y\u00f6nelik 4 bin 500 soru\u015fturman\u0131n uzun s\u00fcredir devam etti\u011fini, sadece \u00fc\u00e7 be\u015f davadan karar \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hat\u0131rlatan \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, bu soru\u015fturmalardan karar \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131n\u0131 beklediklerinin alt\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7izdi.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Almanya d\u00fc\u015fmanlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n s\u0131\u011f\u0131nma merkezi olmamal\u0131&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Almanya&#8217;daki Fetullah\u00e7\u0131 Ter\u00f6r \u00d6rg\u00fct\u00fc (FET\u00d6) mensuplar\u0131n\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131na da de\u011finen \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n FET\u00d6 \u00fcyeleri i\u00e7in bir s\u0131\u011f\u0131nma merkezi olmamas\u0131 ve darbeye kar\u0131\u015fan ki\u015filerin T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye iade edilmesi gerekti\u011fini ifade etti.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu, &#8220;Aram\u0131zda anla\u015fma var ve bu t\u00fcr durumlarda iadeler m\u00fcmk\u00fcn. Ba\u015fka \u00fclkelerle Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n da var, bizim de var bu t\u00fcr i\u015f birli\u011fimiz. Benim bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131mda \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan diplomat, asker, savc\u0131lar, hakimler oraya s\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131yor. Dostumuz Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n d\u00fc\u015fmanlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n s\u0131\u011f\u0131nma merkezi olmamas\u0131 gerekiyor. Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n bu konularda daha ciddi ad\u0131mlar atmas\u0131n\u0131 bir dost ve m\u00fcttefik olarak beklemek en do\u011fal hakk\u0131m\u0131zd\u0131r.&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Alman Bakan: ili\u015fkilerimiz s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Almanya D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Sigmar Gabriel ise 2 \u00fclke ili\u015fkilerinin s\u0131k\u0131nt\u0131l\u0131 bir d\u00f6nemden ge\u00e7ti\u011fine i\u015faret etti.<\/p>\n<p>T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin FET\u00d6&#8217;n\u00fcn darbe giri\u015fiminin ard\u0131ndan Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n yeterince h\u0131zl\u0131 tepki vermedi\u011fini belirtti\u011fini hat\u0131rlatan Gabriel, darbe giri\u015fiminin ba\u015far\u0131s\u0131z olmas\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 duydu\u011fu memnuniyeti dile getirdi.<\/p>\n<p>Gabriel, &#8220;Darbe giri\u015fimlerine tahamm\u00fcl edilemeyece\u011fini ifade etmek isterim.&#8221; \u015feklinde konu\u015farak, hem Alman h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin hem de halk\u0131n\u0131n darbe giri\u015fimine kar\u015f\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin yan\u0131nda yer ald\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131n alt\u0131n\u0131 \u00e7izdi.<\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki \u00fclkenin NATO m\u00fcttefiki oldu\u011fu ve ter\u00f6re kar\u015f\u0131 birlikte m\u00fccadele etti\u011fini ifade eden Gabriel, ter\u00f6re en fazla kayb\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin verdi\u011fini vurgulad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>\u0130ki \u00fclkenin ticari ili\u015fkilerinin iyi durumda oldu\u011funu belirten Gabriel, Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye ile Avrupa Birli\u011fi (AB) aras\u0131ndaki G\u00fcmr\u00fck Birli\u011fi Anla\u015fmas\u0131&#8217;n\u0131n g\u00fcncellenmesi konusunda iradesi bulundu\u011funu aktard\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Konuk bakan, mevkida\u015f\u0131 ile k\u00fclt\u00fcrel ili\u015fkileri de \u00f6\u011frenci de\u011fi\u015fimleri ve karde\u015f \u015fehir gibi projelerle geli\u015ftirebileceklerini ele ald\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 anlatt\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Gabriel, vize serbestisi konusunda da AB d\u00fczeyinde bir geli\u015fme olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u00fcrece bilim insanlar\u0131 ve i\u015f adamlar\u0131 i\u00e7in d\u00fczenlemeleri kar\u015f\u0131l\u0131kl\u0131 olarak kolayla\u015ft\u0131rabileceklerini kaydetti.<\/p>\n<p><strong>PKK&#8217;n\u0131n Almanya&#8217;daki faaliyetleri<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>PKK&#8217;n\u0131n sadece T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de de\u011fil, Almanya&#8217;da da hara\u00e7 toplama, uyu\u015fturucu ve silah ka\u00e7ak\u00e7\u0131l\u0131\u011f\u0131 gibi sebeplerle tehlikeli bir \u00f6rg\u00fct oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in yasakland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 hat\u0131rlatan Gabriel, bu nedenle T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin Almanya&#8217;ya PKK ile ilgili y\u00f6neltti\u011fi sorular\u0131 anlayabildi\u011fini s\u00f6yledi. Gabriel, &#8220;Almanya&#8217;da PKK&#8217;ya imkan tan\u0131mamak ad\u0131na, faaliyetlerini s\u00fcrd\u00fcrmemesi i\u00e7in bunlar de\u011ferlendirilecek.&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<p>Almanya&#8217;da PKK mensuplar\u0131na y\u00f6nelik 4 bin 500 soru\u015fturma ve T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin bu konudaki taleplerine de\u011finen Gabriel, T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;nin bu konudaki tekrar inceleme talebini de\u011ferlendireceklerini aktard\u0131. Gabriel, &#8220;Bu konuda h\u00fck\u00fcm giyen \u00e7ok say\u0131da \u015fah\u0131s olmu\u015ftur. Geri d\u00f6nd\u00fcklerinde \u00fclkelerinde alacaklar\u0131 ceza Almanya&#8217;da ald\u0131klar\u0131ndan daha y\u00fcksek ise h\u00fck\u00fcml\u00fc olarak cezalar\u0131n\u0131 Almanya&#8217;da \u00e7ekmeleri gerekiyor. Dolay\u0131s\u0131yla o zaman da onlar\u0131 iade edemeyiz.&#8221; ifadelerini kulland\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Almanya&#8217;ya iltica talebinde bulunan FET\u00d6 mensuplar\u0131<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Gabriel, &#8220;Darbe giri\u015fimine kat\u0131lm\u0131\u015f olanlar veya b\u00f6yle bir \u015f\u00fcphe bulunanlar ile ilgili olarak \u00e7ok net delillere ba\u011fl\u0131y\u0131z. Aksi takdirde mahkeme \u00f6n\u00fcne \u00e7\u0131karamay\u0131z.&#8221; \u015feklinde konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n<p>Almanya&#8217;ya iltica talebinde bulunan FET\u00d6 mensuplar\u0131 ile ilgili, bu konuda ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z bir kurumun ve mahkemelerin karar verdi\u011fini belirten Gabriel, FET\u00d6 konusunda her ipucu ve bilgiyi takip edeceklerinin aktararak, bu konuda T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;den delillere ihtiya\u00e7 oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Gabriel, bunun T\u00fcrkiye kar\u015f\u0131t\u0131 bir tutum olarak alg\u0131lanmamas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini belirtti.<\/p>\n<p>Gabriel, &#8220;(Almanya&#8217;ya iltica talebinde bulunan FET\u00d6 mensuplar\u0131n\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye iadesi) Bu konuda bir araya gelemedik, bir ortak \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm bulamad\u0131k.&#8221; diye konu\u015ftu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u0130ncirlik askeri \u00fcss\u00fc<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Konya&#8217;daki NATO \u00fcss\u00fc ziyaretinin g\u00fcndemde oldu\u011funu aktaran Gabriel, bunu olumlu bir geli\u015fme olarak de\u011ferlendirdi.<\/p>\n<p>Almanya&#8217;n\u0131n \u0130ncirlik&#8217;teki askeri \u00fcss\u00fc ziyaret talebi konusunu s\u00fcrekli g\u00fcndeme getirip buradan bir \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma \u00e7\u0131karmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ifade eden Gabriel, ziyaretin m\u00fcmk\u00fcn olmamas\u0131ndan \u00f6t\u00fcr\u00fc duydu\u011fu \u00fcz\u00fcnt\u00fcy\u00fc dile getirdi.<\/p>\n<p>Gabriel, &#8220;Alman ordusu dedi\u011fimiz zaman bir parlamento ordusundan bahsediyoruz. Bu nedenle de parlamenterlerin asl\u0131nda her zaman ziyaret edebilmesi gerekiyor. \u015euna \u00e7ok \u00f6nem veriyoruz ki bu karar\u0131n T\u00fcrkiye ile Almanya aras\u0131ndaki ilkesel ili\u015fkilerle bir ilgisi yok. Yani bu konuda ordunun, birliklerin ba\u015fka bir yere kayd\u0131r\u0131lmas\u0131 ili\u015fkilerimizin k\u00f6t\u00fcye gitmesi anlam\u0131na gelmez.&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<p>A\u00e7\u0131klamalar\u0131n\u0131n Alman birliklerinin \u0130ncirlik&#8217;ten ayr\u0131lmas\u0131 anlam\u0131na gelip gelmedi\u011finin sorulmas\u0131 \u00fczerine Gabriel, bu konuda net bir plan veya sonu\u00e7 olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131, duruma g\u00f6re tekrar T\u00fcrkiye ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fclerek durumun neticelendirilece\u011fini belirtti. Gabriel, bu konuyu T\u00fcrkiye ile bar\u0131\u015f\u00e7\u0131l, dostane bir \u015fekilde ve herhangi bir \u00e7at\u0131\u015fma olmadan halletmek istediklerini vurgulad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><strong>T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de tutuklu bulunan Die Welt&#8217;in muhabiri Deniz Y\u00fccel<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de tutuklu bulunan Die Welt&#8217;in muhabiri Deniz Y\u00fccel ile ilgili de Gabriel, Bakan \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu&#8217;na bir tak\u0131m \u00f6nerilerde bulundu\u011funu ve mevkida\u015f\u0131n\u0131n bu \u00f6nerileri ilgili makamlara iletece\u011fini s\u00f6yledi\u011fini aktard\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>Sigmar Gabriel, iki \u00fclkenin ortak menfaatleri bulundu\u011funa i\u015faret ederek, ili\u015fkilerin daha iyi oldu\u011fu d\u00f6nemlere tekrar d\u00f6n\u00fclmesi temennisini dile getirdi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ba\u015fbakan ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme iptal oldu, Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Erdo\u011fan ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u00d6te yandan \u00f6nceden planlanm\u0131\u015f olan Sigmar Gabriel ile Ba\u015fbakan Binali Y\u0131ld\u0131r\u0131m g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesi program yo\u011funlu\u011fu gerek\u00e7esiyle iptal edildi.<\/p>\n<p>Bunun yerine Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Recep Tayyip Erdo\u011fan, Almanya D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Sigmar Gabriel&#8217;i kabul etti.<\/p>\n<p>Cumhurba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131 K\u00fclliyesi&#8217;nde bas\u0131na kapal\u0131 ger\u00e7ekle\u015fen kabul, bir saat s\u00fcrd\u00fc.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;ye heyet halinde gelen Almanya D\u0131\u015fi\u015fleri Bakan\u0131 Sigmar Gabriel ile Mevl\u00fct \u00c7avu\u015fo\u011flu&#8217;nun g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmesinden \u0130ncirlik&#8217;e ziyaret konusunda bir \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcm 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